Hi all,So that is from a post on thefiringline.com and as far as I can tell the guy is serious. Other than a serious case of "Magpulitis" he seems to have decided that whatever length of barrel he has on his bushmaster is just not enough to make a shot out to 600....
I have a Bushmaster AR (That I'm very happy with) that I've turned into quite the CQB rifle. With a furnishing of Magpul accessories and furniture it looks awesome and functions great.. Just what I want and need as a personal carbine. Now I've set my sights on a SPR type AR as a DMR-functioning rifle. Basically an AR that will compliment my other, and have a little synergistic role. Both will shoot 5.56 (granted if I was taking for making real *real* precision shots of course I would want better ammo in the SPR) but anyway, both use the same ammo, mags, and function about the same . I would also be configuring the R-15 to function as a SPR/DMR but also be 'able' to fight with it if necessary... i.e. I liked the SIG DMR when I first 'met' it but I strongly doubt you could fight a battle with it, it's too heavy/unwieldly to fight with, it's too much of a 'sniper rifle' which is not really what I'm looking for.
http://remington.com/products/firear...r-carbine.aspx
SO that's the link to what I'm thinking of , the R-15 'Predator Carbine' which features an 18" barrel and also a Free Float tube. Now the tube is what i'm wondering about. Does it have/allow for a bottom of the tube rail? Bec. I could deal with those "slots" around the tube if/when I needed to mount accessories by mounting those little screw-in mini-rails that you also use on the Magpul MOE handguard.
But on the bottom, I want to do some stuff. As an SPR I want it to have some fighting capabilities. I would mount a Magpul AFG on the bottom rear for gripping of course but also for holding if I needed to use it like that... and then a Bipod up front. so is there a way to put a rail on the bottom?
Also I'd want to make the rear A2 stock into a Magpul PRS, just seems so much better. And it looks like it takes BUIS pretty easy with a gas block mount, and then it would just need a nice great scope.
Waht do you think? eems like a real reasonable solution to a SPR/DMR instead of like $3000 for a Noveske ( no doubt better but so expensive)
from TAKticool
Obviously no one ever went to war with a 9 pound rifle that only had an 8 round clip. For "CQB" you obviously you need a "CQB setup" that obviously can't shoot out to 600 yards... Obviously the best shots out there use the Magpul PRS because it is so much better than the standard A2 stock that is used by high power competitors and actual Dedicated Riflemen....
The rifle is just a tool. All strength, power, and ability lies in the wielder. The accessories you slap onto a rifle are just toys. Good ammo helps, but training trumps toys.
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I would post the pic found here:
http://ninepoundsledge.blogspot.com/2011/08/my-response-to-tflcom-fools.html
in the reply thread.
Sounds like a case of more money than brains to me.
In your experience, how effective is .223? Specifically std issue ball from a std issue carbine?
So much bandini gets bandied about on the net about ".223 won't put them down, the 7.62 X 39 is so much more effective..."
Your experience and/or observations?
This aside from the training aspects and issues.
Fantasy sells guns.
Always has. Always will.
If one out of every thousand .458 Win Mag rifles ever sold has been taken to Africa or Alaska, I'll eat my hat on live TV.
I'll bet the number of double-stack, dot-sighted, compensated race guns outnumbers the total number of open-class IPSC shooters by multiple orders of magnitude.
For every person that plans any legitimate use of a self-loading defense-type carbine, there are another thousand who buy them for just such fantasies as you listed.
And how many Garands did Band of Brothers sell, anyway?
God Bless America (and God Bless all these Walter Mittys that keep the gun biz in the black.)
Well put Tam and all too true.
My favorite rifles are a 7.62x39R set up for low light close quarters and 7.62x51 MBR with aperture sights. Nothing fancy noting much to break and not a lot to feed the accessory guys. Ammo ammo ammo...
I dont use use Stoner rifles, nothing wrong with them just seen enough of em.
To the guy that asked, 223 was implemented to give lighter weight and greater control in full-auto over the 308. Key word is "full-auto". Its a good round, accurate as all hell. Select your semi-auto needs accordingly.
Plus, I always enjoy seeing the overweight, cigarette smoking, fantasy tough guys who have way more time and money invested in their weaponry than in their bodies.
Your ultimate CQB bullet-hose won't do a damn if you have a heart attack at the first sign of Bad Stuff, or if you collapse from lack of oxygen after sprinting 50 meters in your super fancy, 60 pound chest rig.
In my experience the bad guys try to avoid coming within 600 meters of friendly forces because they get their ass handed to them.
In a real open ground fight such as Iraq or Afghanistan the more accurate rifleman has the advantage, and from 300 to 600 meters the M4/M16 beats the AK.
Anything inside of that and it really doesn't matter what you are carrying.
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