Yes the purpose of war is to kill the enemy, not women and children. The fact we do not go out with then intent on killing women and children is what seperates the U.S. Military from all those 3rd world militaries. What is the difference between these and accidental killings by LE in the U.S. That is my point!
Fine. I will agree that the cops are acting very much like a foreign occupying army. Soldiers are protected from local prosecution by a "Security Agreement" (same as a Status of Forces Agreement) in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Cops are protected from local prosecution by "acting under color of law" which leaves citizens with only the option of non-criminal "civil" suits. Kinda like Iraqis or Afghanis are given "claims tickets" to get some cash for having the loved ones killed or property damaged. So it is clear that US citizens are seen as little more than "little brown hajis" by the boys in blue. I'm glad you made your case for this so strong Dan, it is nice when a law enforcement thug agrees with my assessment of the situation.
However Dan, wherever in the hell did you get the idea that killing innocent people is "just and right" when the military does it? Certainly not from this blog unless you are reading in your own biases.
Finally, when you say "we go out" I have to question how many combat patrols a 31D (CID agent) really goes on. Your job is to prosecute the guys in green, not the guys in man dresses. I lost all respect for CID when they couldn't/wouldn't prosecute a soldier of mine dealing heroin in the barracks and then got mad at me for chaptering his ass out.
As far as officer deaths go you wrote:
2001 to present: 1613 total deaths of U.S. Servicemen in Afghanistan. During the same time 1718 LE Officers also died in the line of duty.
When you take away all those LEO deaths from traffic accidents you cut that number in half. My point is that a police officer is much less likely to be shot at than a soldier in a combat zone and yet still there are cop apologists like yourself who believe that cops should use the same tactics as a soldier in a combat zone for some sort of "officer safety" benefit.
If you were using your brain for anything other than a beret holder you would come to the logical conclusion that when Cops act like soldiers they make citizens their enemy. I expect you to respond with "no, cops make criminals their enemy" but that is just complete and utter BS because I have already given you the number of innocent citizens killed by cop per year. You responded back with the UCR data for "justified homicides" as opposed to "death by cop", a data set that has nothing to do with my point. But way to slay that straw man, masterfully done.
And finally, way back from a few days ago Dragon Dan 31D wrote
Hmm! Ok now the fact you are serving in the U.S. Army and claim to be a Mercenary. This is interesting since it tell me you serve for money or maybe using Uncle Sam to get a college degree only and not love of country
I do love my country, but that is not why I serve. If we didn't get paid, how long do you think you would keep doing YOUR job? I bet you are a happy little soldier the 1st and the 15th. And since you are both a cop and a soldier, what type are you? Are you the type who is serving out of duty? No, because then you would be a medic or a grunt. Are you serving out of family tradition? Possibly, both cops and soldiers have family traditions of service. Are you serving because you need a job? I can't tell. But are you the fourth type? The type who wants power over other people? Are you just another thug with a badge? Since I seem to have struck a nerve you should really examine yours honestly and figure that out. Because if you were one of the first three types, you might have simply ignored my post. But something hit home deep enough that you keep arguing your straw man points trying hard to face the facts that cops aren't the angels you imply they are.
And since you are in CID, you know that soldiers aren't all angels. We seldom turn out to be plaster saints.
And finally, "Mercenary" comes from the route for "wages" while "Soldier" comes from the route for "shilling" and both refer to someone who is paid to fight. And that is what I am paid to do, by force of violence implement the harsh reality of American Foreign policy. Interesting side note, but the original meaning for "Foreigner" in French means "Barbarian." Fitting, no?
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I served for 20 years. My 1st enlistment was to learn a technical skill. My subsequent reenlistments were based upon financial considerations (I now had a family to support). I am also a patriot, always have been, even when it was not popular (late 70's and 80's). Throughout history professional soldiers we paid for their service AND expected to be professional. We killed when it was required, even taking casualties when unsure of the target. As I look at the SWAT tactics that SOME in the law enforcement community use, and the lack of repercussions when something goes wrong (usually based upon "anonymous tips"), I see no comparison with our Rules of Engagement, ours were much more restrictive and placed soldiers in danger and mistakes were plastered all over the news with a "baby killer" bias.
Now we have the Dept of Education (!) acquiring weapons (why?) and using SWAT. It starts to remind be of Germany in the 1930's.
4th Generation!
My point is not to compare Americans with in your words "little brown hajis". My point is accidents happen. If you hit a person crossing the street and did not violate any traffic laws it is an accident. If your drunk and you do it is a crime.
LE and Military service is dangerous work and sometimes people get hurt or killed by accident. The question is do we treat these incidents as accidents or do we treat them the same as a criminal matter.
As fare as Status of Force agreements that only protects you from the host country, not from military justice. Color of Law only protects an officer if the action was legal. If the officer is committing a criminal offense for personal reasons and or gain,the color of law does not protect them. They are prosecuted the same as non LE citizens, but the charge is one level higher than a non LE citizen. The enhancment is because they were public servants who betrayed the trust given to them by the people.
Combat patrols!
How many convoys have you be in that were lead by or escorted by someone with a 31 MOS? What about those guys that protect you when your bsck at base. Tell it to the families of all the 31s killed by IEDs and VBIEDs since 2003. Shameful!
FYI the 1613 total for Afghanistan includes everything including traffic accidents, and even suicides.
FYI my head makes a very good beret holder.
Nice try on the "Mercenary", but no cigar. Before the modern army model all professional armys were basiclly made up of "Mercenaries". What does current international law or treaties say about Mercenaries?
If you do not like the a current law then get out there an support people for office that share the same view as you. After all the people you elect are the same people who pass the laws you may or may not agree with. The LE officer does not make the law only enforce what law have been passed by your elect offical. Do not like it vote them out!
One final note. If I understand from what you have posted is that you are currently an active duty officer in the U.S. Army. Refresh my memory what would the Army do to an officer caught running a blog called "American Mercenary" with some of the content you have posted here? Just wondering. Have a great day!
While patriots squabble among themselves on the internet, the Chinese are landing in Idaho to exercise their claims to US resources.
And the welfared Sheeple will probably remain willfully ignorant of the great big red white and blue dick being rammed up their asses because if they protest, they might lose their handouts. More than half the country is living off others thoughtlessly via the government: When you give up economic independence and individual responsibility, you pretty much have given up on liberty, bromides and posturing notwithstanding, and we now owe more than we're worth!
JP in MT: the enemy knew that to take us down without a fight they'd have to do it over a long enough period that we wouldn't wake up en masse. That strategy has worked which is why you find Stockholm Syndromed Americans cheering SWAT teams murdering Marines and busting down doors for unpaid student loans.
Dragon Dan 31D: When police murder Americans it's no accident. When they happily enforce whatever un-American law some traitor in public office writes or when serving military blasts a wedding reception all they do is create future enemies for all of us to deal with sometime down the road. I suspect that time is nearing rapidly.
Gardenserf: you cannot fight an external enemy when you've been undermined from within and they're still in charge.
You know the saying "One man terrorist is anothers freedom fighter".
Well one mans traitor is anothers patriot. I think calling an elected official or anyone for that fact a traitor just because they do not view something exactly like you do is a little overboard.
The radicals on the right are just as dangerous as the radicals on the left, because there is no room for reason with them. They will always be right and you will always be wrong.
Anonymous 12:45 PM---A man who stands for nothing, will fall for anything. There are out and out traitors in our government and population, they should be addressed as such.
Yippeya,
Whose to say your views are not the views of a traitor! I'm not saying you are just making a statement for the sake of debate.
It is kind of like in war only the losers are hung for thier so called "War Crimes". We live in a world where the powerful make the rules not the powerless. This is just the sad truth of it.
Dragon Dan, boy I must have hit a nerve. As far as "accidents" go... Once is a fluke, twice is coincidence, but three times is enemy action.
I don't see "accidents" happening with such regularity that they can still be called accidents.
I don't know how many combat patrols or even CLIPS were lead by 31 series MOS's. Couldn't find any out there in Muqdadiyah or Quazania. Me and eleven grunts were rolling around the Iranian border all by our lonesome, or through Baqubah for that matter.
And if I did get an order to stop blogging, I would obey, as this blog address along with my full name and social was given to the S2 for monitoring a damn long time ago. However the internet is forever, so even if I deleted everything today the backup copies I've already given out are still there.
Seriously Dan, look around at the other comments and see if you can imagine a different viewpoint. I don't know how old you are, but use some critical reasoning skills to figure exactly why cops are not viewed as dedicated public servants but jack booted thugs. You can make excuses for behavior all you want, but excuses are like assholes, everybody has one and it stinks.
"The LE officer does not make the law only enforce what law have been passed by your elect offical."
Wow. Rewind 60 or so years, and plop you down outside of a number of quiet German towns in the countryside, and you would fit right in.
The LEOs out there always have a choice, and those who enforce laws that result in the senseless deaths of innocent people... well, they have made their choices.
As a native French speaker, I don't know where you're getting that last line from. The French word for "foreigner" is "stranger". In fact in both cases the English word is essentially the same as the French word, borrowed by way of the Norman invasion. "barbare" and "étranger" are not the same word.
Please double-check your urban legends before repeating them.
Rollory, thank you for commenting so much on the modern use of French, I should have been clearer about the usage of the words instead of a direct etymology.
Barbare comes from "barbary" which is of Greek origin. Foreigner comes from "outdoors" or "from the forest". The usage of both was synonymous for someone "less than civilized" (Barbare was implied to be "not Greek" or "not civilized") until more recently in history, the same way that "mercenary" and "soldier" have a common root in the amount of pay a man of arms received but now has two more distinct meanings in modern English.
Obviously you wouldn't say that a Muscovite or Berliner was "from the forest" or "less than civilized" but any good Frenchman would consider them "Foreign" even though the word is no longer synonymous with "uncivilized" or "barbarian."
Anyways, I do apologize that I wasn't clearer.
Echoes the call for Dan to get into "check yo' se'f be4 U wreck yo'se'f" mode: The brainfilthying that the Papists-That-Be are always right is as dangerous as the common false assumption on the left that America is ALWAYS wrong (check NPR for perpetual examples).
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